[Dcmlib] Fwd: Re: Problem with Philips dicom images
Jean-Pierre ROUX
jean-pierre.roux at creatis.insa-lyon.fr
Thu Nov 18 21:59:56 CET 2004
Just for fun :
Après 15 jours de recherches, et avec l'aide déterminante de
Jean-Michel Rouet, de Philips, nous avons fini par localiser le 'bon'
interlocuteur, chez Philips, au sujet de pb des images MR intera
NTSCAN.
Le bon interlocuteur, c'est en fait celui qui connait le numéro du
formulaire à remplir pour faire un bug report.
Voila ...
>From: jan.h.dijkstra at philips.com
>To: Jean-Pierre Roux <jpr at creatis.univ-lyon1.fr>
>Cc: Egbert.Algra at philips.com, jean-michel.rouet at philips.com
>Subject: Re: Problem with dicom images
>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:34:15 +0100
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>Dear Sir,
>
> The attribute discussed 2001,e05f which seems to cause this problem
>is a newly defined attribute (stack sequence) which is not used by
>the EasyVision.
>All unknown private attributes are imported and exported without any changes.
>
>To be able to proceed this problem (MR or EasyVision) please submit
>a Field Problem Report
>using PRFORM-2.
>
>Best Regards / Met Vriendelijke Groet
>Jan
> <mailto:jan.h.dijkstra at philips.com>Jan H.Dijkstra
><http://pww.yellowpages.philips.com/apps/w_dir/e30152/e3015201.nsf/V-3
>PByName/Jan+H+Dijkstra> Room QV123
>Phone (+31 40 27)63392
>Fax (+31 40 27)62379 Medical IT
>Philips Medical Systems Nederland BV
>Veenpluis 6 5684PC BEST
>040-2791111
>P.O. Box 10.000
>
>
>Jean-Pierre Roux <jpr at creatis.univ-lyon1.fr>
>
>11/16/2004 05:48 PM
>
> To: Jean-Michel Rouet/SUR/RESEARCH/PHILIPS at PHILIPS
>Jan H Dijkstra/BST/MS/PHILIPS at PHILIPS
>Egbert Algra/BST/MS/PHILIPS at PHILIPS
> cc:
> Subject: Re: Problem with dicom images
>
> Classification:
>
>
>Hi, everbody !
>
>I'm one of the customers experiencing troubles with Advantage Windows
>burned cd roms, for MR intera NTSCAN images :
>We cannot read thoses CD on any Dicom Viewer, but the EasyVision one.
>
>The problems comes from the fact that, within some private 'Dicom
>Sequences', the 'endianity' doesn't follow the one given by 'Transfert
>Syntax' value. (it switches from Explicit Little Endian to Explicit Big
>Endian)
>
>We modified the C++ code of our own Dicom Reader, to solve the problem,
>(as a Reseach Lab, we no longer have problem), but the Doctors still have...
>
>Regards
>
>Jean-Pierre Roux
>
>
>
>
>
>jean-michel.rouet at philips.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Cette fois je crois que c'est a toi de répondre, ou de me donner la
> > réponse :-)
> >
> >
> > ----- Forwarded by Jean-Michel Rouet/SUR/RESEARCH/PHILIPS on
> > 16/11/2004 17:15 -----
> >
> >
> > *Egbert Algra*
> >
> > 16/11/2004 17:12
> >
> >
> > To: Jean-Michel Rouet/SUR/RESEARCH/PHILIPS at PHILIPS
> > cc: Kees Visser/BST/MS/PHILIPS at PHILIPS
> > Jan H Dijkstra/BST/MS/PHILIPS at PHILIPS
> > Subject: Re: Problem with dicom imagesLink
> >
><Notes:///C12568900046C69F/38D46BF5E8F08834852564B500129B2C/92E06B68F2
>E1F72EC1256F4E00577C8D>
> >
> >
> > Classification: Unclassified
> >
> >
> >
> > Jean-Michael,
> >
> > Thanks for the informational feedback on the EasyVision product.
> >
> > Jan.H.Dijkstra at philips.com is the person handling these types of issues.
> > He shall make sure the information is processed within the 'field
> > problem' handling processes.
> >
> > I have a single question to you: have you noticed customers
> > experiencing actual problems with
> > the noticed behavior (e.g. are they using the EasyVision created CDs
> > within the described context?).
> > Please route the answer to jan dijkstra too.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Egbert
> >
> > _________________________________________________
> >
> > Egbert Algra, MSc, PDeng
> > Software Architect
> > Philips Medical Systems
> > Medical IT - Architecture & Technology
> > Bld QV-141, POB 10.000, 5600 DA Best, The Netherlands
> > Phone: +31 (0)40-2764554
> > _________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Jean-Michel Rouet*
> >
> > 11/16/2004 04:57 PM
> >
> >
> > To: Egbert.Algra at philips.com
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re: Problem with dicom images
> >
> > Classification: Unclassified
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Egbert,
> >
> > Kees Visser gave me your email adress as you might have the answers to
> > my question about the dicom writer on EasyVision (see the forwarded
> > mail below).
> > Is that true ?
> >
> >
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------------------------------------
> > Jean-Michel Rouet (PhD), Senior Scientist
> > Medical Imaging Systems (Medisys)
> > Philips Medical Systems Research Paris / Philips France
> > 51, rue Carnot - BP 301 - 92156 Suresnes Cedex - France
> >
> > Phone: (+33) 1.47.28.36.13 Fax: (+33) 1.47.28.36.00
> > mailto:Jean-Michel.Rouet at philips.com
> >
> > ----- Forwarded by Jean-Michel Rouet/SUR/RESEARCH/PHILIPS on
> > 16/11/2004 16:56 -----
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *
> > Kees Visser at PHILIPS*
> >
> > 16/11/2004 16:30
> >
> >
> > To: Jean-Michel Rouet/SUR/RESEARCH/PHILIPS at EMEA1
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re: Problem with dicom images_Link_
> >
><Notes:///C12568900046C69F/38D46BF5E8F08834852564B500129B2C/1BE77AC6BC
>D13B48C1256F4E0051346B>
> >
> >
> > Classification: Unclassified
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Jean-Michel,
> >
> > I am not the right person indeed for these kind of problems.
> > An EasyVision customer may submit an official problem report for this
> > I would say,
> > in the official way, rather then trying to contact a developer directly.
> > See also: http://technet.best.ms.philips.com/cmt_blcs/
> >
> > I have no influence on the implementation of the DICOM storage in
> > EasyVision.
> > You can try to ask this to *Egbert.Algra at philips.com*
> > If he is not the right person, he should at least know who is.
> >
> > Bye, Kees
> >
> > PS: In viewforum we have a totally new implementation of this stuff.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Kees.Visser at philips.com
> > Philips Medical Systems 5684 PC Veenpluis 4, Best
> > QV-156 +31 40 2763772
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *
> > Jean-Michel Rouet*
> >
> > 11/16/2004 03:54 PM
> >
> >
> > To: Kees Visser/BST/MS/PHILIPS
> > cc:
> > Subject: Problem with dicom images
> >
> > Classification: Unclassified
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Kees,
> >
> > I've been told from some people in Lyon (Creatis Lab), that images
> > coming from an EasyVision-burned CDROM on a Philips MR intera scan,
> > has a private DICOM Sequence whose elements length is Big Endian
> > coded, while the remaining of the image is Little Endian Coded (even
> > worse, the preamble of the dicom file says that the Transfer Syntax is
> > Explicitly set to LittleEndian, but some 16 fields are encoded on big
> > endian sequences). In that case, the private dicom sequence tag id is
> > "(2001,e05f)". Moreover It is not described in the public Philips
> > Dicom Conformance document
> >
>(http://www.medical.philips.com/main/company/connectivity/assets/docs/
>dicomcs/MR%20Intera%20R10.4.dcs_final.pdf)
> >
> >
> >
> > Is that a feature or a bug ??? apparently every public domain dicom
> > viewer fail to read such images (but not easyscil of course).
> > So what is the proper way of reading such images ?
> > Is it intended to modify the dicom writer of easyvision for the intera
> > platform in next release (to be more dicom norm compliant !) ?
> >
> > Regards,
> > JM
> >
> > PS: I'm not sure you are the right person to ask such a question. If
> > no, can you tell me the name of a person that can answer such a
> > question ?
> >
> >
> >
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------------------------------------
> > Jean-Michel Rouet (PhD), Senior Scientist
> > Medical Imaging Systems (Medisys)
> > Philips Medical Systems Research Paris / Philips France
> > 51, rue Carnot - BP 301 - 92156 Suresnes Cedex - France
> >
> > Phone: (+33) 1.47.28.36.13 Fax: (+33) 1.47.28.36.00
> > mailto:Jean-Michel.Rouet at philips.com
> >
> >
Jean-Pierre ROUX
UMR CNRS 5515-CREATIS
Laboratoire de Radiologie Experimentale
Hopital Cardiologique
28 Avenue du Doyen LEPINE
B.P. Lyon-Montchat
69394 Lyon Cedex 03
Tel : (+33) 04 72 35 74 12
Fax : (+33) 04 72 68 49 16
URL : http://www.creatis.univ-lyon1.fr
e-mail : jpr at creatis.univ-lyon1.fr
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